<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902001554910776047.post5518818120005096615..comments</id><updated>2010-03-29T11:59:53.053+01:00</updated><category term='Claims'/><category term='Cars'/><category term='Kindle'/><category term='ROI'/><category term='Architecture'/><category term='RFEs'/><category term='Standards'/><category term='Backup/Recovery'/><category term='Christmas'/><category term='Amazon'/><category term='NetApp'/><category term='EMC'/><category term='Hype'/><category term='Cisco'/><category term='NDA'/><category term='TCO'/><category term='Vendors'/><category term='Management'/><category term='Selling'/><category term='cloud'/><category term='Oracle'/><category term='Objects'/><category term='Grumpy'/><category term='OT'/><category term='Environment'/><category term='Supply chain'/><category term='Support'/><category term='SNW-Europe'/><category term='PR'/><category term='Conferences'/><category term='VMware'/><category term='Travel'/><category term='Snow'/><category term='SSD'/><category term='Dell'/><category term='Process'/><category term='StorageBeers'/><category term='Laptop'/><category term='Communication'/><category term='Rant'/><category term='RPQ'/><category term='Partners'/><category term='Storage'/><category term='Android'/><category term='LiveScribe'/><title type='text'>Comments on GrumpyStorage: TCO - Time for an opensource framework?</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.grumpystorage.com/feeds/5518818120005096615/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5902001554910776047/5518818120005096615/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.grumpystorage.com/2009/09/tco-time-for-opensource-framework.html'/><author><name>ianhf</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03223784099797393996</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wW2zwR1asiw/S69HA803kOI/AAAAAAAAADo/zGcmqvlIjlY/S220/solittlesay-sml.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>5</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902001554910776047.post-2643878515794648000</id><published>2010-03-29T11:59:53.047+01:00</published><updated>2010-03-29T11:59:53.047+01:00</updated><title type='text'>I think two things are needed: one is a simple tem...</title><content type='html'>I think two things are needed: one is a simple template for calculating internal TCO (for dunces like me who forget bits), the other is a mechanism for sharing depersonalised data between organisations which is not amenable to Evil Sales Weasels manipulating it. I&amp;#39;m up for the sharing part.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5902001554910776047/5518818120005096615/comments/default/2643878515794648000'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5902001554910776047/5518818120005096615/comments/default/2643878515794648000'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.grumpystorage.com/2009/09/tco-time-for-opensource-framework.html?showComment=1269860393047#c2643878515794648000' title=''/><author><name>Just zis Guy, you know?</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11774306676255483622</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.grumpystorage.com/2009/09/tco-time-for-opensource-framework.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902001554910776047.post-5518818120005096615' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5902001554910776047/posts/default/5518818120005096615' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-554080498'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902001554910776047.post-3941196762325720731</id><published>2009-09-24T11:31:05.801+01:00</published><updated>2009-09-24T11:31:05.801+01:00</updated><title type='text'>ok - so my thought process is that there is a mode...</title><content type='html'>ok - so my thought process is that there is a model, and that model can then be utilised at the levels I indictaed above.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As per the model, yes I will look at the models I&amp;#39;ve had in the past, review against om_nikc&amp;#39;s one and then publish a draft strawman for critique... Downside is for a variety of reasons &amp;quot;i&amp;#39;m rather busy&amp;quot; so this will be a few weeks...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However re TCO as a decision factor, I regard that as a yardstick for the real maturity, intelligence and metrics of the company&amp;#39;s mngt - if ignored then short term, if included then mid/long term (good).</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5902001554910776047/5518818120005096615/comments/default/3941196762325720731'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5902001554910776047/5518818120005096615/comments/default/3941196762325720731'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.grumpystorage.com/2009/09/tco-time-for-opensource-framework.html?showComment=1253788265801#c3941196762325720731' title=''/><author><name>ianhf</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03223784099797393996</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='13133553727227495610'/><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.grumpystorage.com/2009/09/tco-time-for-opensource-framework.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902001554910776047.post-5518818120005096615' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5902001554910776047/posts/default/5518818120005096615' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1527362848'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902001554910776047.post-8462717622370028265</id><published>2009-09-24T09:08:49.118+01:00</published><updated>2009-09-24T09:08:49.118+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Paul, I suspect the reason that TCO often is not a...</title><content type='html'>Paul, I suspect the reason that TCO often is not a real decision factor is due to the fact that it&amp;#39;s not understood! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ian&amp;#39;s model however crude has got to be start in changing this! So completely agree with both of you; publish it Ian and lets start work on it.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5902001554910776047/5518818120005096615/comments/default/8462717622370028265'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5902001554910776047/5518818120005096615/comments/default/8462717622370028265'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.grumpystorage.com/2009/09/tco-time-for-opensource-framework.html?showComment=1253779729118#c8462717622370028265' title=''/><author><name>6p010534b1c8f7970b</name><uri>http://profile.typepad.com/6p010534b1c8f7970b</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/openid16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.grumpystorage.com/2009/09/tco-time-for-opensource-framework.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902001554910776047.post-5518818120005096615' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5902001554910776047/posts/default/5518818120005096615' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-73504336'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902001554910776047.post-8115238632076920632</id><published>2009-09-22T18:24:47.817+01:00</published><updated>2009-09-22T18:24:47.817+01:00</updated><title type='text'>ianhf,

Good news: your model won&amp;#39;t need to be...</title><content type='html'>ianhf,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good news: your model won&amp;#39;t need to be very refined to be hugely valuable. Even a rough approximation (within 10 to 20% of eventual actual values) would do, judged by how little TCO actually ends up being a real decision factor in storage purchases.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I agree with Storagezilla (6p00d834519dbf69e2 for his friends): let&amp;#39;s do the first open source Google Spreadsheet on this and invite comments. Then we can take it from there!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5902001554910776047/5518818120005096615/comments/default/8115238632076920632'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5902001554910776047/5518818120005096615/comments/default/8115238632076920632'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.grumpystorage.com/2009/09/tco-time-for-opensource-framework.html?showComment=1253640287817#c8115238632076920632' title=''/><author><name>paulrmc</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15676224921720990853</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jziieYgV0Ug/Sp-tSXxfSCI/AAAAAAAALQs/R1cNZGQzNjA/S220/PC.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.grumpystorage.com/2009/09/tco-time-for-opensource-framework.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902001554910776047.post-5518818120005096615' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5902001554910776047/posts/default/5518818120005096615' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1428748242'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902001554910776047.post-3526764125912363858</id><published>2009-09-21T23:01:25.980+01:00</published><updated>2009-09-21T23:01:25.980+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Create your framework and release it no matter how...</title><content type='html'>Create your framework and release it no matter how unfinished of half baked it is. Then see if it&amp;#39;s iterated by others and yourself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a product. Develop and ship it.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5902001554910776047/5518818120005096615/comments/default/3526764125912363858'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5902001554910776047/5518818120005096615/comments/default/3526764125912363858'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.grumpystorage.com/2009/09/tco-time-for-opensource-framework.html?showComment=1253570485980#c3526764125912363858' title=''/><author><name>6p00d834519dbf69e2</name><uri>http://profile.typepad.com/6p00d834519dbf69e2</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/openid16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.grumpystorage.com/2009/09/tco-time-for-opensource-framework.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902001554910776047.post-5518818120005096615' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5902001554910776047/posts/default/5518818120005096615' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-2124357386'/></entry></feed>
